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Madame's Nightshirt
Mrs. Peperium
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CNS Reporter: "There’s a letter written by the US
Conference of Catholic Bishops to Congress saying that they believe all
of the health care proposals right now – the one in the House and the
ones in the Senate – they all fund abortion as it stands and unless
there’s an amendment or a change to those bills that specifically
prohibits it, they’re not going to support it. Do you agree with them
or is there something – "
Rep. Patrick Kennedy: "I can’t understand for the life of me how the Catholic Church
could be against the biggest social justice issue of our time where the
very dignity of the human person is being respected by the fact that
we’re caring and giving health care to the human person – that right
now we have 50 million people who are uninsured. You mean to tell me
the Catholic Church is going to be denying those people life saving
health care? I thought they were pro-life. If the church is pro-life,
then they ought to be for health care reform because it’s going to
provide health care that are going to keep people alive. So this is an
absolute red herring and I don’t think that it does anything but to fan
the flames of dissent and discord and I don’t think it’s productive at
all."
Pride of the Kennedy clan
Where do I begin
To tell the story of how great a con can be
The sweet con story that is older than the See (of Peter)
The simple truth about a "Catholic" family
Where do I start...
How about starting with the words of Patrick Kennedy's Bishop, Bishop Tobin of Rhode Island?
Yesterday, he [Bishop Tobin] was more direct, saying that Kennedy’s comments were “irresponsible and ignorant of the facts.’’
“But the congressman is correct in stating that he ‘can’t understand,’ ’’ Tobin said. “He got that part right.’’
The bishop explained the church’s stance, saying that while the church supports health care overhaul, “we are adamantly opposed to health care legislation that threatens the life of unborn children, requires taxpayers to pay for abortion, rations health care, or compromises the conscience of individuals.
“Congressman Kennedy continues to be a disappointment to the Catholic Church and to the citizens of the state of Rhode Island,’’ the bishop said. “I believe the congressman owes us an apology for his irresponsible comments. It is my fervent hope and prayer that he will find a way to provide morally responsible leadership for our state.’’
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Then there's what Archbishop Dolan of New York blogged:
Over this past weekend, several people mentioned to me Representative Patrick Kennedy’s blast at bishops for allegedly dividing the nation on the issue of healthcare; you can view the video here. His remarks were sad, uncalled-for, and inaccurate.
The Catholic community in the United States hardly needs to be
lectured to about just healthcare. We’ve been energetically into it for
centuries. And we bishops have been advocating for universal healthcare
for a long, long time.
All we ask is that it be just that -- universal -- meaning that it
includes the helpless baby in the womb, the immigrant, and grandma in a
hospice, and that it protects a healthcare provider’s right to follow
his/her own conscience.
This is what the President says he wants; this is what we bishops say we want.
Bishop Thomas Tobin, Representative Kennedy’s bishop, has a good point: Mr. Kennedy owes us an apology.
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Then there's what Patrick Kennedy's Catholic colleague is doing about what the President said he wants:
It looks like Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) isn’t happy with Democrat Rep. Bart Stupak’s efforts to make sure that taxpayer dollars do not pay for abortions in any new health care plan and, , “he may work with Republicans to torpedo healthcare reform unless he gets a vote to strip abortion-related provisions out of the House bill.”
From :
During an interview on C-SPAN’s ‘Washington Journal’ show, Stupak (D-Mich.) said he is undeterred in trying to ensure that taxpayer dollars do not pay for abortions. Stupak, who opposes abortion rights, acknowledged that some in his party are upset with his public campaign to change the bill.
‘The Speaker is not happy with me,’ Stupak said.
Stupak has pulled together who plan to block healthcare reform legislation from coming to a vote on the House floor if the bill includes federal subsidies for abortions. As The Hill reports, “Stupak wants a vote on the House floor to strike the language, and predicts he would have the votes to pass such an amendment.”
The northern Michigan democrat’s threat to work with Republicans to halt healthcare reform appear tailored to forcing a vote to strip abortion-related provisions from the House bill. From :
Stupak said one way or the other, there will be a vote on the abortion language, either “though a rule, or on the floor, or on a motion to recommit.”
Why is this an issue?
Even though President Barack Obama pledged, “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions,” that Obamacare will force the American people to pay for abortions because there is no law to prevent it from happening. What’s more, a provision known as the Hyde amendment, which blocks federal dollars from being spent on Health and Human Services programs, doesn’t apply to the health care reform.
But don’t take our word for it. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent a letter to Congress on October 8th writing: “No one should be required to pay for or participate in abortion. … No current bill meets this test.”
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How long does it last
Can a con be measured by the hours in a day
I have no answers now but this much I can say
I know if Catholics follow the Kennedys
instead of The Church they'll go to Hell.
(yes Kennedy does rhyme with Hell)
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h/t - Dewey In Detroit
Love the post Mrs. P. I'm stunned by Rep. Stupak's principled position. I might just move to northern Michigan so I can vote for him.
Anyone want to buy a nice house?
(thanks for the h/t, too)
Posted by: deweyfromdetroit | October 28, 2009 at 05:56 PM
Cardinal Roger Mahony told CNSNews.com that the issue of abortion funding in the health care bill is “way beyond my field”.
When asked whether he believed abortion should be funded under the bill, Cardinal Mahony said: "No, but that's what the president said, too, so."
Patrick Kennedy will apologize about the time Cardinal Mahony gets his brain from the Wizard of Oz.
Posted by: George Pal | October 28, 2009 at 06:27 PM
Dewey, it's refreshing, isn't it? Yes. Move. Now.
George, instead of saying "that's way beyond my field" why didn't the Cardinal answer "That question is above my pay grade."?
Maybe you would know the answer to this, is Cardinal Mahoney a Commie?
Posted by: Mrs. Peperium | October 28, 2009 at 08:08 PM
Mrs. P,
No. No Commie. Just another useful idiot and useless cleric.
Posted by: George Pal | October 29, 2009 at 09:20 AM
Thanks George. Your use of useful idiots and useless cleric inspired the end of The Lady Killer....
Posted by: Mrs. Peperium | October 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM